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  • Writer's picturePatrick Norris

78. Cathy Loerzel – How Story Work Can Heal the Heart

Welcome to Episode #78 of the Red Ink Revival Leadership Podcast. Today’s conversation is with Cathy Loerzel.

Cathy is an amazing therapist and a premier trainer of leaders in utilizing therapies that foster redemption and healing by helping people explore their historical stories. Her professional career includes both a political and a business background. She has served in the Federal Government on Capitol Hill, worked with Price Waterhouse Cooper and IBM in process and change management, and served at The Seattle School in a variety of positions including organizational development, event planning, and donor relations. Cathy is the co-founder of The Allender Center, and is growing its mission. The Allender Center is a training and transformation hub for pastors, therapists, lay counselors, and community leaders.

Today we talk about Story Work from her upcoming book release with renowned psychologist Dr. Dan Allender called Redeeming Heartache: How Past Suffering Reveals Our True Calling. In my opinion, Cathy and Dr. Allender–along with The Allender Center colleagues–are the foremost thinkers regarding how your storied history ends up revealing the mysteries of undesirable emotional experiencing and behavior in the present.

Our conversation takes us into the following:

  • Cathy’s faith story and how she became a therapist.

  • Why historical story work is so important for people to explore.

  • Why pastors and leaders must give themselves to understanding the nuances in their stories.

  • How leadership is based in relationships, and healthy relationships can only be experienced through healing the heart.

  • What Scripture has to offer to compel us to dig into the narratives in our story.

  • What trauma has done to our ability to relate healthfully.

  • How even the best family of origin experiences still leave us with wounds and the need for repair.

  • How healing actually happens.

  • The part of our story that requires acknowledgement of intentionality on the part of those who hurt us.

  • The power of self-compassion and community.

  • Upcoming story work opportunities with Cathy and Dr. Allender.

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Edited and produced by Evan (Emac) McAlister.

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