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  • Writer's picturePatrick Norris

87. Chris Hodges – Out of the Cave of Depression

Welcome to Episode #87 of the Red Ink Revival Leadership Podcast. Today’s conversation is with Pastor Chris Hodges of Church of the Highlands in Birmingham, Alabama. We talk through Chris’ two episodes of depression and how he came out of his caves.

Pastor Chris Hodges is the founding and senior pastor of Church of the Highlands. Since it began in 2001, it has grown to have 20 satellite campuses across the state of Alabama, with over 60,000 members. Pastor Chris has a deep passion for developing leaders and planting life-giving churches. He co-founded Association of Related Churches (ARC) in 2001, which has launched hundreds of churches across the United States. He also founded Grow, specializing in training and resourcing pastors and churches to help them break barriers and reach their growth potential. Pastor Chris is also the founder and Chancellor of Highlands College, a ministry training school that trains and launches students into full-time ministry careers.

Pastor Chris speaks at conferences worldwide and is a New York Times Bestselling Author, the latest being our topic today, Out of the Cave: Stepping into the Light When Depression Darkens What You See. He is married to Tammy, and together they have five children.

Our podcast conversation takes us into the following:

  • Why Pastor Chris wrote Out of the Cave.

  • His battle with two significant episodes of depression.

  • Why pastors often struggle with anxiety and depression.

  • The necessity of regularly honoring the sabbath.

  • What the story of Elijah tells us about recovery.

  • The importance of resting and eating when emotions are extreme.

  • How a God encounter can change our perspective.

  • Addressing the stories we tell ourselves.

  • A life-giving vision is key to hotwire us out of emotional distress.

  • What Viktor Frankl learned in Lego therapy to help Holocaust victims.

  • The importance of a circle of friends to hold you in times of struggle.


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Edited and produced by Evan (Emac) McAlister.

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